Make One Interview

By Matthew J

Make One Graffiti

When people speak of the L.A. scene, names such as Saber, El Mac, and Retna are quickly mentioned (and rightfully so, they are talented) but what about the people who came before them? Enter MAKE ONE, a legend and pioneer not only in Los Angeles, but Mexico, as well.

Los Angeles’ brand of graffiti has always interested me, so I felt it would be appropriate to interview Make One and get his view on such topics as [his] roots within L.A. and Mexico, the many contributions of female writers, the immigration debates in America, his evolution as a writer, and the importance of competition within the graffiti culture.

SPOILER ALERT!!: While on the topic of competition, Make One issued a challenge to NY graffiti icon, Cope2 for a graffiti battle. Legend vs. Legend?? Imagine that. Will Cope2 accept?? Keep your eyes open … in the meanwhile, absorb this Make One piece.

Starting off, I want to treat this like a job interview and simply get you to introduce yourself to the readers and educate us on the story of Make One. Who is he? When did you start? What crews are you affiliated with? Etc.

MAKE: The name is MakeOne from Los Angeles, representing the following crews: WCA (West Coast Artists), LOD (Loks on Dope) and AM7 (Angelz of Madness). I am co-founder of the legendary LA crew STN (Second To None). I started writing in 84′ and like many writers, have had different names. Names such as: Fraze, Axis, Mine, and Time (as featured in Spray Can Art). One day, while watching Style Wars, I saw Mare139, I liked his style and demeanour and so I swapped the “R” for a “K” and MAKE was born. I have been writing Make or FakeMake since and also rock my real name, Galo or LoveGalo.
I am a proud born and LA raised native who’s of Mexican/Ecuadorian descent.

According to www.makestn.com, your last documented exhibits were in 2005. What is the reason for the time off and will you be doing any new shows in 2010?

MAKE: Actually my last show/event was in June of 2009 in LA. The show was titled Fin De Semana (Weekend) and it featured LA’s very own FDS crew (From Da Streets). In 2007 I also did two large shows. One titled Karan Koron which consisted of nearly 80 artists from Japan, Mexico, LA, USA, Europe and even Canada. The theme of the entire show was all Japanese and each artist featured painted on Getas and flipped them as they wished.

The show had tremendous success and received a lot of media attention. Some of the likes that attended the show were: Robin Williams, Vincent Gallo, rock legend Steve Jones, Justine Bateman, and even Dylan and Cole Sprouse.

That same year, I organized and was the curator of another art show at Border Gallery in Mexico City www.border.com.mx. The show was called Abriendo el Border and it was tied in to the book The History Of Los Angeles Graffiti Art. It showcased writers from LA who were featured in the book and it included a live graff demonstration and the screening of a trailer to a documentary. The show was also followed by a large graff expo that was held the next day with nearly 250 artists that came from all over Mexico. We all painted a permanent mural that was approximately three miles long at a historical cultural center called El Faro De Tlahuac. In addition to the live mural installation we also had a panel discussion discussing the book and history of graffiti in both Los Angeles and Mexico.

That show also received massive media attention from, news media, newspapers, art critics and historians from Mexico.

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You’ve had the opportunity to travel and see some of the different graffiti scenes. What would you say differentiates the L.A. graffiti scene from other North American scenes like New York, Toronto, or Philadelphia?

MAKE: If I had to, I’d say that aside from the hardcore life style and culture, there’s the style influence. Although many credit NY or Philly as the originators of the movement, LA or west coast style, I believe, is highly more influential globally than any other style. I personally have not lived in other cities long enough to have in-depth knowledge and opinions about the scene but I am certain it is filled with the same politics and beefs as any sub-genre, scene or culture in any other city. I’d rather be oblivious to it and just paint and enjoy the city.

Throughout the history of this culture women have played a pivotal part in sustaining graffiti and yet they still are not receiving the proper respect/coverage deserved. Despite the fact that so many articles are being written about women artists, I feel they are getting slighted.
With that being said, what is your feeling on female representation within the culture? Are they getting fair treatment?

MAKE: I am glad you ask. Unfortunately women in any culture or genre, has had either the need or felt the need to work harder at what ever it is they do, whether it is graff, skating, snowboarding, music etc. Women always seem to have to push the envelope harder in order to prove they are as good or as “down” as any other guy doing whatever it is they’re doing.

For approximately a hundred years, women have been fighting for the same rights or respect as men. There is no difference in the graff game. Women writers still get frowned upon by some male writers. Men discredit them immediately upon knowing that a dope writer or artist is a woman. You’ll hear comments such as: “oh she is good for a girl” or “wow, doesn’t even look like a girl did that” and I am like “what you mean it doesn’t look like a girl did it? How can you tell whether it is a girl or not?” (laughs) I find it funny and absurd at times. Styles of graff or any art have never been gender specific, but rather talent specific. Some graff writers/artists don’t realize that by saying the above comments, they are making our culture the same as the corporate one. In art there are such things as freedom of speech and expression and to limit our female artists or even suggest there is a difference because of gender, is like finding the least common denominator for a whole number! There is no need to further divide a culture that has worked so hard to evolve and grow with the times, with stagnant thoughts.

Ok, now going a bit further with the topic of female writers: who are some of the ladies in L.A. that truly representing this culture properly?

MAKE: There are quite of few I can mention. Some of these writers are more down or even doper than some of the male writers I have seen. Shoot, I can say, some of these ladies are even fresher and more down than me (hahaha).

But for LA, women who are dope to me, are down and put in work are: Perl-FDS, Envy-FDS, Opea-FDS, Timoi, Muck, Summer, Sherm-COI, Jeyd, SandOne has been putting in some mad work lately. I also like Jel’s work too. She is perhaps one of the most all-around woman writers I have seen. Style, flow, can control, bombs, tags, characters, legals, illegals etc…she can handle all.

Of course there are others not from LA I respect too such as: Vik from NY, EGR from Canada, MadC from Germany, News, Tiza, Natsue, SheBasic from Mexico, Volr, Shiro, & Belx from Japan…just to name a few. There is mad talent out there and they need to get the shine they deserve.

L.A. has produced some very influential graffiti artists such as El Mac, Retna, Chaz Bojorquez, and Saber. What differentiates you from those individuals? Where do you rank your significance to the culture?

MAKE: I can’t really compare myself to them or to any other writer/artist for that matter. I personally do not like comparing myself to any. I can be influenced by a writer/artist but attempting to compare myself to another writer may either be a bit pompous or a sign of insecurity. The need to feel I am better or gage myself as better or feel I am perhaps not as good or as well known as another writer may not have a positive affect on me. On the other hand, I actually compare myself to only one other writer/artist and that is me.

I see myself and rank myself as an individual and that’s it. To place my own personal value of significance in the culture is not a job for me but a job for those that know, should know and have been involved in the culture.

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So how would you describe your style?

MAKE: I don’t. Attempting to describe my style is categorizing myself or boxing myself in. I actually believe my style to be more “the style of having no style”. I believe that achieving the totality of a graff writer is the ability to not being defined or recognized by one particular style. Albeit, many graff writers have awesome and maybe unique styles and are globally known for it but that is it. Often time you seen one piece and you seem them ALL.

There are those whose style is perhaps a conglomeration of many styles but still fall under limitations. Their structures may cover all the possible lines and angles but why are there some who use only straight lines, others round lines, some only do 3D and others only characters? To me a system clinging to one style is actually in bondage, trapped, limited. I consider myself free, fluid-like and adaptable. Much like Bruce Lee once said. “Be shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water my friend”.

In this case, I see myself more as “Being Style-less” – I like to rock a wall that may spark the question “Did Galo do that?” Be unexpected.

Being that you are one of the originators in L.A. graffiti I am sure you have seen a lot changes (positive and negative) to the scene. Outside of your work and contributions, what are the most memorable moments in LA graff; both good and bad?

MAKE: LA has definitely gone through some major ups and downs. From people not caring about your social status, economical background, color of skin and only caring about one common ground — GRAFF; to people shooting you for being associated to a particular crew or for simply crossing out a name.

Another thing, many so-called new writers appear to have no true love for the art of lettering that graff is fundamentally built on. Many youngsters just go out with a can in hand and plaster their names around. OK, they are “getting up” or may be getting up but where is the sense of style? Where is the fruit of laborious sketching and practicing? Where is the flow? There is none. It’s crap and then they get all butt-hurt because they get no respect. That’s because you need to learn the fundamental structure of a letter, the rules of lettering in order to flow or manipulate a letter without compromising its integrity.

Anyways – getting in to another topic there. For me the most memorable aspect of LA was the early years. When graff was fresh and new in LA. When buses were mobbed, when writers would meet at writer’s bench. When everyone was innocent, got along and handled beef on walls. The early years of graff…not that it is bad now, but I like them years better.

Many people, within the culture, have called graffiti to be a “competitive sport” and like anything where competition levels are high there is the possibility of beefs sprouting up. How do you feel about the competitive nature of graffiti? What role does beef have in the culture?

MAKE: Awe man…I think graff battles are lacking in the scene. I mean real graff battles. Like the old days. It is definitely a component that is missing in the graff culture today. Everyone is too busy wanting to paint with X, Y, Z and have neglected the battle aspect of graff. The taking of one’s name, the burning of that one person on a wall. Any beef being settled on a wall or walls – with no the need to get physical. That, aside from the gratification of seeing one’s name up, was or is the beauty of graff.

This may seem as a contradiction of what I recently said about comparing and ranking one self but in reality the competiveness aspect of graff brings out a more pure and sort of healthy element of comparison. Much like if I want to be a basketball player, I can’t nor may not compare myself to the likes of Kobe, MJ, Carter or Garnett but I will definitely take’em on one-on-one battle…feel me? Then and there you can gage yourself…not against your opponent but yourself.

So is there anybody in this game whom you’d like to go one-on-one with and battle? In other words, do you have beef with anybody?

MAKE: Yeah man – I want to battle Cope2. I think he is over-rated and jocked waaaaay too much. I think he needs to bring it and do something different than the same piece he does over and over and over again. I ain’t trying to battle him on spots cuz he has NY on lock, or used to. But I am calling him out to a friendly battle. Old head to old head battle. LA vs NY…come on now…let’s take it back to the old school days. What ya think?

Make One Graffiti canguy

A battle against Cope2 would be great for graffiti; maybe it could help inspire artists to be more creative (people say, “steel sharpens steel”). Do you think Cope2 would accept your challenge? And if he were to accept, what kind of rules would you want for this battle?

MAKE: Well I hope he accepts my challenge. I have emailed him, myspace’d him, twittered him and have also spread the word around a bit and in addition sent messages to him through like T-Kid etc about battling. He never replies. I don’t know…is he afraid to a little? Not sure. Does he think he does not need to battle?…not sure of that either. Does he think I am not known enough or am a good opponent? Well then come out and burn me. Regardless of his reasoning, – eventually people are gonna get wind of it and sooner or later he will have to answer to the call.

What kind of rules? I’d say traditional rules – style, colors, execution, overall production, background, characters…whatever…will speed be a factor? I’d say yeah, but I too would paint hella fast if I’d did the same pieces for like 10 years.

Okay, now I’m going to play devil’s advocate and do some shit disturbing. Earlier, you mentioned not comparing yourself to others, yet we now have challenged issued, so I wonder is this challenge based on beef or bragging rights? Lets suppose that Cope2 does accept your challenge. Do you see him as a worthy opponent, stylistically? Do you feel he can legitimately compete with you?

MAKE: HA – like I said I have no beef with the dude. Just for clarity, it would be a friendly battle. Plain and simple. It ain’t like he slept with my girlfriend or anything. All it is attempting to bring that element of graff back and choosing an opponent. And he just happens to be whom I choose to battle. Bragging rights? Nah, I don’t care to brag about stuff…I never have really. The bragging, whether I win or lose, will be done by other peeps and they will talk about it.

I know what I am up against. The dude bombs, can paint, and paint fast too, has major fans and jockers who will support him and will probably be the favorite, etc but I am up for it.

Aside from graffiti what are some of the side-ventures you have going on in your life?

MAKE: I have quite a few. I speak at schools and universities about graff and art. I work with at-risk youth and also teach art or urban arts at schools and non-profit organizations. I juggle hearts…that keeps me quite busy too. Hahahaha –
A lot of my life has been surrounded and/or built around graff. It ain’t my life nor is the source of my individuality or persona but it does play a significant roll in it. I can drop my graff life and return to the “normalities” and routines of everyday life at any given time….But this is the life I chosen and have given up a lot for it. no regrets too.

I find what you just said to be very interesting because I know certain artists who have put so much of their life energy into this culture that any thought of them walking away is non-existent. Despite all if the time and energy you have poured into graffiti do you really think you could just walk away? And what anchors you to make that decision, if needed?

MAKE: Well, I think I can but I choose not to. I can usually walk away from anything simply because I do not attach myself to anything. I have mad love for the art form and as mentioned above, have sacrificed a lot to be an artist and although I have anchored myself to the art and lifestyle I can cut loose at any given moment. I have, although, invested a lot of myself and may yet to see any long term profit but I’d rather move on attempting and not giving up then given up too early.

The reason I continue is because as an artist I believe I have made an impact, have influenced, have changed or saved a life perhaps and that alone brings gratification and assures me of my purpose and decision to remain.

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What can we expect from you 2010?

MAKE: More graff I hope. I am also looking into coordinating some shows this year. One of them is with the crew EYOS (Evolve Your Own Style) from Mexico. Hopefully mid-year or near end of this year. I am also considering doing a show about my self – but we will see. I still have to work out the gist of that show. But I am one who usually does not talk about what I be doing or am gonna go until I do it and it is like BAM. That has usually been my MO.

Before we end this interview, I want to take an opportunity to stray from graffiti and discuss politics. Currently, in America one of the big political issues is the whole debate concerning the immigration and arrival of people from South of the US border. The mainstream media has aggressively presenting Mexicans, especially, in a negative light. Being that you’re of Mexican descent, what are your thoughts on the media’s portrayal of Mexicans and other Latinos trying to enter America in search of a better life?

MAKE: Well no matter what, the media, “intentional” or “not”, will always perpetuate stereotypes. Although we may have seen a declination of negative depictions of Mexicans over the years, stereotypes are still being nourished and reinforced. Unfortunately many, who are naïve and ignorant, will always be susceptible to these type of portrayals and lies.

Let’s look at some of the wording choices used to define immigrants. “Illegal aliens” – that alone already has a negative connotation. This country has always had this so-called “patriotism” that I believe has only truly bred hate and division. Isn’t this supposed to be the country of opportunities? The land of the free? Many immigrants, not only those of Mexican decent, have built this country, have contributed to this country more so than perhaps those so called patriots.

These “immigrants”, whom many have come to this country to make something of themselves, sacrificed themselves to seek a better life for themselves and/or their families has every right to do so as any human being living here.

To continually be portrayed as dissidents, leaches, indolent, savages etc by mainstream media is a complete lie rooted in hate that we, as the “minority” ourselves need to help change too.

Anyways – this can lead to a long winded answer. But I leave you with this quote: “The great masses of the people will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.” – Hitler; Mein Kampf.

Graffiti: these days everybody seems to have their own definition of what it is (crime or art). How do you define graffiti?

I don’t. I get tired of getting asked that too. (laughs) I am fed up with the same rhetoric of 20 years. What is graffiti? Or is graffiti art really art? Even amongst practitioners of the art form it is a topic of debate. I am over graffiti writers or graff artists trying to define what real graffiti is or who a real graffiti artist is and who is not. You can’t define it man. It is so ambiguous. Graffiti has a life of it’s own. It is a quagmire, an oxymoron…graffiti art is abstract. How one defines it ten minutes later another or even that same person will define it differently. Why not ask about the corporate ads and billboards? Is that graffiti? Most certainly? Specially those erected illegally. That is graffiti street tactics being applied by corporate America. Why are they not being questioned? Punished? Criminalized?

Anyhow – my answer to how do I define graffiti is “How do you define it?

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You have called yourself a “pioneer” of graffiti in LA and Mexico. Do you feel people recognize the contributions you’ve made to both scenes? Are you getting the respect you feel is deserved?

MAKE: Hmmm…perhaps not as much as say others do or could but I think that is purely my fault. I didn’t maintain myself relevant to the scene for many years. And upon retuning to the scene, I used to expect that recognition or respect. I felt merited, deserving of that recognition, almost demanding it. But I would only set myself up for disappointment, resentment, even bitterness. I‘d blame fellow crewmates too for not keeping me alive or supposedly telling the truth. Blah blah blah -

As I began on my own spiritual journeys, I realized that stuff like that just comes naturally. I just had to paint and do my thing wholeheartedly without the need or approval of anyone. As I began to come around more and more, people began to show me love. It gave me a different perspective and I let go of clinging on to a history of my “glory days” or becoming a “has been” and just be doer.

Don’t get me wrong, I still get the “who are you again?” when I introduce myself but then like it when they find out who I am after and approach me or email me to let me know they were glad to meet me. It’s a good feeling…much better than having me shove my history down their throat and attempt to convince them of what I did and who I am. I get much more love from peeps now than before.

People who are aware of my contributions in Mexico, specially in Guadalajara city, always give me mad love and respect.
Basically, I deserve the respect or recognition I give to others as individuals – that is it.

Last question, when all is said and done, what sort of legacy do you want to leave behind? What do you hope people will say when they mention Make One?

Just that I had love for the art. That is mainly it. That I influenced one or two writers. That I inspired a kid to pursue art. That I changed one person’s life, as cliché as it sounds. But I know that one person’s life whom I may have changed will always keep me alive…and that my friend, is being immortalized.

65 Comments

  • GraffHead April 8, 2010, 11:20 am

    Wow. What an interview.

  • Pauline April 8, 2010, 12:26 pm

    haven’t finished reading the entire thing yet, but this is great so far!!! Great stuff here

    xo

  • kingcope2 true legend April 8, 2010, 1:17 pm

    You want to battle me lololol omg with what style you have! I will roast you kid I would do it to make you look stupid but you coming at me a little to disrespectfull I run the same style for 10 years nigga u must be smokin that crystalmeth out there or you must straight up be a hater talkin about I’m way to over raited that sounds like a hater!coming at me that way and your wack style you aint got a chance unless someone put $5000 cash winner takes otherwise learn to respect and carry yo self like a legend if you call yo self one homey!!!

  • Galo April 8, 2010, 1:57 pm

    @Cope2 – hahaha – word word, let’s do it then! I am game for the 5g prize man. And for the record, I ain’t dissing nor much less hating on ya, just sayin’ what perhaps others won’t say. but anyways – you think my style is wack? LOL – alright homie, if you say so but ima brush that off and let the walls determine that.

    peace

  • kingcope2 true legend April 8, 2010, 2:25 pm

    Nah I’m good for a so called la legend u sound to arrogant and cocky and to disrespectfull your words don’t move me homey I will burn the shit out of you I just spoke wit some la cats niggas said u crazy wack not to even waste my time but I would still do maybe not cause u came at me realy disrespectful not feelin u so I feel u don’t deserve a battle and trust me I’m not swetin u its the way u came at me u lost respect! Maybe ill get my man make the real one from ny to burn yo ass. And as for westcoast infulencing the world your realy crazy it was new york homey do your homework but wait didn’t mare 139 influence you and he’s from new york homey!! Yeah I thought so no more to say get some style before u try and battle a master true legend like me homey!!!!

  • Dona Junta April 8, 2010, 3:06 pm

    Word on the interview! thanks for the FDS love for sure, appreciate that. Hopefully a battle will happen haha.

  • Dona Junta April 8, 2010, 3:08 pm

    Man, quit the net-banging that is some gup ass shit!

  • Shawn April 9, 2010, 2:06 am

    There seems to be crazy hype here. Is the battle going to happen?? I’d love to see it go down.

  • Steve Grody April 9, 2010, 2:49 am

    Good interview. Just two comment bits. El Mac is a truly talented guy and super nice, but it’s not appropriate to call him an L.A. writer. He works here with Retna often and is part of MSK events, but he lives and is based in Arizona (I believe), and that’s not a criticism, just trying to be accurate. And as for FDS (already a good-humored ref to the product), I still like the first translation of the name that I was given by one of their members: Females Destroy Shit.

  • Harvey Wallbanger April 9, 2010, 8:00 am

    Females Destroying shit? How sexist!!!!

  • Senses Lost April 9, 2010, 10:49 am

    That’s a good point Steve. The Mac is from Arizona.

  • The $tatus Faction April 9, 2010, 1:08 pm

    HEAVY INTERVIEW! We dig it! Let’s see the battle action!

  • stevio April 9, 2010, 1:24 pm

    Galo – I learnt a lot. That “Pusher” logo you did is still in effect.

  • Dona Junta April 9, 2010, 2:15 pm

    Hey Harvey lol, remember it’s co-ed buddy, gallo rojo is in it lol

  • Dona Junta April 9, 2010, 2:17 pm

    Steve, Fds is a co-ed crew now, meaning From The Streets, Swoe and Yikes both rep the crew and males it’s not an all girl thing, that’s something of the past buddy.

  • kingcope2 true legend April 9, 2010, 3:39 pm

    Ayo make! What happend you got lost I guess you went to go make!!! Some new style lololololololololol battle me lolololol omg I’m on the floor you need to stick to breakdancing you’ll have a better chance burning me I’m to fat to be spinning on my back lololol hit up matt at 33third and see if he wants to hook up the battle price gotta be correct and worth it loco!!! Otherwise forget it try another writer

  • Galo April 9, 2010, 4:59 pm

    @Cope2 – naw man – I am here. LOL – that was funny yo. But I just thought you thinking me dissing you may lead to a misunderstanding I wish not to venture in. Like I said…I was not attempting to dis you nor am I hating. I actually give you props in my interview for your accomplishments but I just wanta battle. That’s it.

    And you are right, my boy Mare139 was an influence to me. I never deny it. Nor do I deny other NY legends as well who influenced me. But none did like LA Legends such as: Rick/Crime-K2S, The KGB heads, Prime-K2S, Besk-UCA, Mosh and Volt-LOD, Skept-K2S, Risky-WCA, Rival-WCA, Soon-WW, and TemptOne-STN – other cats influencing me today are Size-OTR, Hael-OTR, Ruets-LOD and so on who all bring that LA style and flavor in effect that NY don’t have. And it has broaden out globally by kats like Saber and Retna. Just sayin’ –

    anyways – as far as breakdancing – I will burn you there too. LOL

    and i agree – the battle prize gotta be right…and I guess it would be easy money for you right? so why would you deny the challenge?

    peace out

    MakeOne – Galo – Time

  • O.G Like April 9, 2010, 7:11 pm

    Galo…don’t give in, you’re better then that..if homey don’t wanna battle for he fear of losing, then just let it be.

  • Blue Panther April 9, 2010, 8:20 pm

    Cope2 is the new dopehead on the streets. Come on boys n’ girls and let’s make us all some marshmallow treats…

    If I hear or see your sissy bitch ass threatening or hating on people with your childish tartonics, I WILL send you running off the Brooklyn bridge like a lemur. I am keeping my word COPE, if you do not do anything POSITIVE for your community – in any capacity – by December 1st, you WILL be the laughingstock of the graffiti community you claim to reign. Only thing that will be raining, are your own tears.

    One response from you to me, and I will HUMILIATE you. You write like an immigrant from Timbuktu. Keep the playschool lingo for the walls and try expanding the 3-4 letter minimum. You’ve been tagging for so long you can’t even write a sentence.

    BE GONE.

    BP 777

  • Blue Panther April 9, 2010, 8:30 pm

    MAKE is my homie. Watch where u tread here. I am back in the States.

  • Rafa April 9, 2010, 10:04 pm

    This battle would be good. I really do not see any disrespecting here from Make One. I had the honor to meet him once while he was up in the bay and that bloke is chill as fuck. This interview is good and a good read. Great answers and great questions from Senses Lost. I think they did a good job on the article. Much Props

    Rafa
    San Jose Bay to LA

  • Dona Licha April 9, 2010, 10:29 pm

    This is an insightful interview, on many levels. Thanks Make for bringing The Realness. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and Make, that is exactly you, intelligently opinionated and you stick to your guns. Much appreciation for bringing FDS to light and LA in general. Big ups to thee great Make!

    Licha!

  • TROPIK April 10, 2010, 12:47 am

    Yes, this was a great interview. Nice! Galo!
    and “I LOVE GALO”, never have I witness disrespect from this guy or even Hate! towards another. He is as real as they come. Galo cocky! Hell Nahh.. You gotta know the guy before you talk @#$%^&* like that.

    MakeOne you did your thing and you did it right.
    Seems like MakeOne got a reaction out of Cope2.. lol.. not to mention the weak replies.

    OMG!! PLANET PANTHER… YOU ARE TOO FUNNY.. THAT’S THE FIRST THING I NOTICED!
    “You’ve been tagging for so long you can’t even write a sentence. ”
    I didnt even understand the second long as message he wrote!

    ANYWAY.. I WANNA KNOW IS IT ON OR NAH?

    PEACE OUT!

  • TROPIK April 10, 2010, 12:54 am

    SORRY… I MEANT.. BLUE PANTHER… LOL..

  • CRAM April 10, 2010, 1:00 am

    Great Interview! Senses Lost is a dope site.

    I think it’s great that MakeOne has stepped up and called Cope2 out. It’d be great to see a battle like this actually happen. Does there really need to be some big prize? It seems like this is an issue that needs to be settled. Graffiti was never about any glamour or prizes, it’s about the getting up. MakeOne and Cope2 should meet at a wall and be done with it.

  • CRAM April 10, 2010, 1:01 am

    Oya those comments from Blue Panther are hilarious.

  • A2M April 10, 2010, 6:10 am

    Is that really cope responding?

    I can only comment on the fact that the one thing that never seems to change in graffiti is the ego.

    You’d think someone with the history that cope has would come with some class. It’s not like it’s some chump making the challenge. It’s someone who’s been around just as long or longer.

    Maybe this also goes back to that East versus West rivalry. The Eastcoast doesn’t take the Westcoast seriously. They seem to think only their graffiti is real or worth anything because of the Eastcoast history. However the East is stuck in the past regurgitating tired styles while the West continues moving forward. If I was Cope I’d be scared too.

  • Ezra One April 10, 2010, 11:23 am

    I have to say..This is one of Galo’s better interviews and love the attention it has gotten, especially from “Cope”. I agree with a lot of what Galo has to say..
    Also agree with the fact that Cope is a bit overrated, there is no doubt that other N.Y. legends that really deserve to be jocked don’t get jocked as much as Cope, for example some of the real Greats and very good friends of mine, T-kid, Pose2, Duster, Ket, Pink, Smith, Sane, Ciff, Pure, Ghost, just to name a few and I can’t forget one that has inspired me for a long time, a very Great friend and very humble person “CES”.

    I mean it’s not hard to be, “All CITY” in N.Y. due to the fact that it is so close together. I visited and painted in N.Y. and it was not hard getting around without a car or even covering the whole city. Don’t get me wrong it does take work, just the same. But living and Painting here in Los Angeles takes way more effort to cover the area, not to mention dealing with gangs especially if your not Hispanic.

    Bottom Line is N.y. had its time and they did a great contribution to the culture, but there is no doubt that L.A. has taken the Artform innovated it, Fused it and shaped it with Culture, Color and brought outside the typical. “Fill, Design, Outline,3D ,Forcefield, and your occassional Bubble Clouds and Stars.”

    But Art in any form should be about progress, evolution, and innovation. So I’m right there with my man Galo, when it come to Cookie Cutter Graff Artist. You see one piece, you have seen them all.

    Peace!!

  • Fearo Dcv Uti April 10, 2010, 2:01 pm

    Hmmm…Well, well well. Make told me about calling out Cope and now we have some communication as hindered as it may be. Let me say this about it. My opinion of Cope 2 and his art are high. I usually will first judge an artist on his merits so when I traveled out to the Bronx my first time I was extremely pleased to see for myself the work and straight out damage this man has done out there. Whole rooftops, top to bottom, throw ups everywhere. Pieces with mad flavor. To say Cope hasn’t earned his legendary status would be wrong. When I met Cope he not only showed respect for me but gave me a compliment on my style which I dont get too often, not even from my peers here in L.A. So I thought that was admirable about him. But what I like most about Cope isn’t his style or demeanor, but his passion for the movement. The fact that he’s an older train writer thats still contributing to graffiti art in my opinion seals his legacy. I dont feel Its right to say that he’s overrated. He deserves his props and has earned them through his consistency.

    On the other hand, we have Make one who I feel might be underrated due to the lack of early documentation on Los Angeles graff art. The old school out here knows what Make is capable of, but it hasn’t been till recent years that its been slowly filtering out to the rest of the world. L.A. does have a rich history in graffiti and needs to be documented more. When I ventured out into the L.A. scene which was around 1986, one of the first writers I noticed was Make. I also took note on how different his style was from New York graff. So in saying that, I do feel he is a worthy oppenent for Cope and vice versa. But again, no matter who wins, or who’s style you like better..the most important thing about these two writers is there passion and heart for the graff game. Big ups to the both of you. You both have shaped me as writer and have had influence on me. If it goes down Id love to be one of the judges.

  • REALDEAL April 10, 2010, 5:31 pm

    1. Galo you will lose that battle you are playing yourself for hype and did come across disrespectful towards him. There is no way you can piece better than him Better ask Ruets for some letters and it sounds like your coping a Plea after Cope bringing that NY Swag to the table .

    2. Cope does have a big head and does sound like a idiot most of the time but has bombed harder than you will have ever. Pics dont lie that 100 bombs in one night is not far off to what he did back in the 90’s for years.

    3. NYC is very hard to go all city it is not just Manhattan or Willy B to the kid that thinks how easy it would be.. NYC is fucken huge and there is a lot of space. Besides that it is the hottest city in the country police everywhere you are painting in-front of people full time. You just got to have mad witz..

    4. All the old school NYC writter’s have been burnt or got to old or turned rats…Thats why the out of towners like BTM and AL are starting to stand out in the city ADEK, DAYS, SCREW, MALVO, LEWY, NEKST, HAELER, SOUP come to mind but ADEK is the new Boss hands down . The new NYC kids suck ass on all levels besides NEMZ ..

    4. Now Style wise NYC kicked it off but hands down 100% the West coast has it in the bag will smoke any state or country these days. NYC forgot to teach the youth what is up…

    I can go on for days so i will stop with this…

  • lil Spanky April 10, 2010, 9:59 pm

    Wow, if those flicks up there represent MAKE’s best work, then he has some nerve dissing COPE’s work. Even if it was true that COPE’s pieces were all the same, i would still rather see one dope style than a million different crappy ones.
    if LA’s MAKE wants a battle, i agree he might wanna start off by calling out the NY MAKE, like COPE said. But just judging from available flicks online, that battle is (also) pretty much over before its even begun:

    vs

    LOLz
    no fucking comparison

  • lil Spanky April 10, 2010, 10:00 pm

    shit, looks like you cant post images on here, my bad.

  • SNOTY PIMPIN 100% THC April 10, 2010, 11:14 pm

    MAKE has been nothing but respectful and willing to slap skin with me.
    truly a level headed dude.

    the turn out will most def be interesting

  • Calis Infamous 39K April 12, 2010, 3:33 am

    @ Galo:
    kingcope2 true legend <—– To me this s.n. seems like a fake ass buster jus tryin to stir shit up. I doubt Cope Is that ignorant that he can't spell. he might be a prick wit a big ego but this Fool typingh here makes me feel like its a lil kiddie ass fool from Ny jus tryin to Hate on LA bcus hes stuck on the east burnin some brown ass weed and havin to look at nothin but copes played out 1 throwie. Fuck cope 2 and NY… Props to big Make reppin for the most scandalous Los Angeles Bitches!

    MY suggestion is try to get at him through someone else keep trying but I doubt this fool is Cope 2 especially if u been trying to get at him for sometime and then randomly u get a post on a board like this where people can make names to front….

  • kingcope2 true legend April 13, 2010, 11:01 am

    Ayo blue skank hoe! Shut the fuck up already dec 1st passed years ago I’m still here u fake. Bitch u like to swet me om myspace facebook I had to block yo crazy ass wtf u want from some real dick! Ill give u that is that’s wut u want off my ballsacks already fuck outta here wit yo big nose ugly ass grill!! Ayo make its all love homey ill be in la soon will see sup as for all u mofo who got nothing good to say fuck u off my dick u don’t know me! Ayo ezra go fuck yo self u toy ass nigga u just hatin cause yo x girl was on my dick at 33rd and almost banged her! U hatin bitch get some fame!! This shits a joke and fun fo me all ya mofo on here get emotional over this bitch shit!! The only big head I got is my fat dick! So fuck all u hatin mofos!! Much love to all ya mofos in here who got love fo me the rest can eat a fat dick!!! Lolololol cope2 king of new york true legend!!! Yeah baby!!!!!

  • kingcope2 true legend April 13, 2010, 1:07 pm

    Ayo calis infamous 39k this is cope2 nigga go fuck yo self who the fuck are you that I gotta come correct for that the problem with mofos like you and make ya a bunch of hatin ass mofos with no respect so how the fuck ya expect to get respect if ya don’t respect fuck outta here off my dick that’s what ya need to fuckin do I’m infamous nigga worldwide mobb figure!!! Ayo ezra fuck u2 nigga ya can eat a dick!!!

  • WESTCOAST WRITER April 14, 2010, 12:49 am

    @QUEEN COPE 2.. Step up to the plate homeboy… all this talk blah blah blah- “i’ll take you out” blah blah blah with your east coast sh_t.. Show us what you got!! Seems like you are the one coming up with excuses.. “Make” came out with respect to battle your ass. We will even let you have MTV film it so that you can get your groove on… damn hipster…! Do it son!!!!!!!!! Afraid you’ll get played….

  • Besk"UCA"LOD" April 14, 2010, 2:17 am

    Yo Cope, I can give a shit about whos battleing who, but you coming to L.A. talking all this shit about L.A. writters is not cool at all…You should choose your words wisely. Talking about another mans woman and expect to be welcomed in MY city with opens arms is not gonna happen…be the legend you claim to be and show respect…This isnt NYC ese….Games arent played here

  • streetsweapers&mack 10's April 14, 2010, 4:24 pm

    yo cope, if you come to L.A your gonna catch a bad one son,..we dont play that bitch shit out here in the WESTSIDE muthaf**ka

  • kingcope2 true legend April 14, 2010, 6:32 pm

    Ayo shut the fuck up make came at me disrespectful first read it good homeyyy I got mad love for la writers you crazy my tloks haeler do tko fam tribe frame vyal mare cartoon revok norm msk fam all my niggas and much more so fuck outta here I’m just talkin about u mofos from la who talkin shit and being disrespectful to me ezra pussy he see me he be on the dick then he wanna come on here disrespectin me fuck dat and fuck ya I aint afraid to die cause when I die I’m going to paradise so I’m in a hurry to die but no ones gonna write nonsence and disrespect me without retaliating back if you know me ima real nigga fuck were you from is were you at so respect or get none ill be in la anytime nigga what bring it come shoot me I don’t give a fuck step with the hands you’ll get knocked the fuck out ayo make you see what you started with yo disrespect if u came at me real it wouldve been on but you got all your homeys talkin shit whatever I’m done mad love to my real niggas out in la all the haters eat a dick bronx niggas don’t play

  • kingcope2 true legend April 14, 2010, 6:38 pm

    Guns guns guns that’s all ya know how to do any chump can shoot a gun I got tuns of guns let’s shoot some knuckles niggas you what whatever I got no time for this bitchass shit fuck outta here with ya bullshit I love la all do respect ayo make you wanna battle no swet let’s do this in a peacefull way aight ima get at you peace

  • Ezra One April 14, 2010, 8:07 pm

    Hey Cope, I dont do this shit talking on blogs or Emails online, I got your email of Facebook and left you my number.. You can call me and we can settle. As far as that old shit with my Ex, we both know that’s not how it went down.. But I won’t put you on blast like you tried to do me. Any way you took my comment out of context like everything else.

    That was my personal opinion, as I said and your entitled to yours.. I never said you don’t deserve being in the lime light, all I said is that others should be there just as much as you, if not more.

    You wanna get off on calling me names, ha.. That shit won’t affect my painting Holmes..I still get my props. But I do agree with you..This shit did get outta hand, so like I said read my FaceBook reply and get at me and we’ll resolve this how ever you want ese..

    -E

  • CHANKLA75 April 14, 2010, 9:39 pm

    PURO MENDIGO desmadre en este website…

  • Besk"UCA"LOD" April 15, 2010, 12:19 am

    Cope…all them people you mentioned, ask them who I an and what Im about before you open your mouth…thats the route you choose to take, then Ill see you when you come to L.A….Im gona tell you this much..you are NOONE here..

  • Rodney King April 15, 2010, 12:59 am

    Can we all just get along? feels like 1991 all over again. SMH

  • VYAL ONE April 15, 2010, 1:23 pm

    By the time i got to be able to leave a comment i forgot what the interview was about…..

  • DOC43 - STN April 16, 2010, 4:05 am

    This would be a sick battle between Make and Cope2 yo!

  • streetsweapers&mack 10's April 16, 2010, 2:05 pm

    yo Cope,.nobody said anything about a guns guns guns,..us real muthafuckaz always KNUCKLE UP HOLMES!,…but dont worry this battle will be handled on the walls like it should be done!!,..this aint no L.A vs NYC shit, us L.A niggas got respect for NYC writers we just hope you muthafuckaz out in NEW YORK do the same!,..WORD!

  • Norad April 18, 2010, 12:29 pm

    Let the battle begin. These two need to do this

  • SMEAR April 20, 2010, 4:36 am

    My birthday is in a few days.

  • FD April 20, 2010, 12:47 pm

    I’ve had the honor of working with Galo on Karan Koron and History of Los Angeles Grafitti Arts book release celebration and have to say the boy is a true LA Legend and an all around down-to-earth homey. I was introduced to Cope2’s work via my homey SPRFKR and he’s got talent. All i can say is stop being a bunch of punk ass bitches and let the wall decide. Battle it and see who comes up on top. As far as a cash prize <- sounds to me like someone is stalling. Me being from LA will have to go with my boy Make One but shit if Cope's pieces out shine Make's, then a winner will be decided. Nuff Said!

  • Reevoak One--8th letter crew April 20, 2010, 2:12 pm

    fuck biters. be original.

  • CAPONE April 22, 2010, 12:46 am

    yo cope2,.you might be somebody in new york but here in L.A you aint shit you fat piece of shit,. fucken name dropper,.just so you know all them wackass niggas you named got no street credit except for HAELER, FRAME is wack and a lil depressed bitch,REVOK aint shit,TOOMER lmao! & NORM aint from L.A hes from FRISCO, you think your tuff ese come to L.A and you will get your sorry arroz con gandule eatin ass knockedout punk!!

  • troy April 25, 2010, 5:00 pm

    lol ya ezra is not a graffiti writer. he paints legal stuff and does other peoples styles. he knows how to use a can but he has never put in work like cope 2. so he should just be quite..

  • BP 777 April 27, 2010, 12:05 am

    YO COPE THE DOPEHEAD -

    BEFORE YOU EVEN TRY TO BLAST ME, RIP OPEN A DICTIONARY AND LEARN TO FUCKING SPELL YOU IGNORANT MORON!!! YOU SOUND AND WRITE LIKE A 3-YEAR OLD WITH DOWN SYNDROME!!!

    YOU’RE A STRAIGHT UP HATER AND I DON’T CONDONE HATERS. AND YOUR’RE A FAT BULLY TO ALL THE WRITERS YOU FIND THREATENING. YOU DON’T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ME OR WHAT I STAND FOR SO DON’T ACT LIKE YOU DO. I HAVE TONS AND TONS OF EMAILS FROM “YOU” KISSING MY ASS LIKE A SCARED SISSY, BUT THEN YOU ROLL UP ON HERE TRYING TO FLEX SOME MUSCLE LIKE A RETARDED TITAN ON CRACK BECAUSE YOU THINK I AIN’T PAYING ATTENTION. I WASN’T – BUT I HAVE EYES AND EARS EVERYWHERE, HOMIE.

    IF YOU DON’T PLAY THE GAME FAIR, I WILL HAVE YOUR ASS LOCKED UP SO YOU CAN HAVE A SMALL DICK SHOVED YOUR YOUR FAT CRACK…AND FOUL MOUTH. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO I AM — WHAT I HAVE DONE — OR WHO I KNOW. I AIN’T NO STREET RAT LIKE YOU. MY FINGER IS WORTH MORE THAN YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY.

    YOU RESPOND IN YOUR KIDDIE LINGO TO ME AGAIN, AND I WILL POST EVERY SINGLE EMAIL YOU SENT ME TO MY GMAIL AND FACEBOOK — AND HUMILIATE YOUR IGNORANT BITCH ASS. TRUST ME! ANYTHING YOU SAY AFTER I POST THAT SHIT ON FACEBOOK AND ON EVERY FORUM ONLINE, NOBODY…I MEAN NOBODY….WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY. YOU WILL LOSE ALL RESPECT AND COPEHEAD WILL BE THE NEW OFFICIAL DOPEHEAD ON THE STREETS!!!

    YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BOW DOWN AND HONOR YOUR 50 YR OLD ASS BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROVEN TO THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN WRITE YOUR NAME ON A WALL? WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING??? WHAT VALUE HAVE YOU ADDED TO THE EARTH WITH ALL THIS NEGATIVITY YOU ARE ALWAYS SPRAYING TO EVERYONE?? ALL I KEEP TELLING YOU TO DO IS TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU RESPOND BY MAKING A COMMENT ABOUT MY NOSE? IS THAT ALL YOU CAN FUCKING SAY? GROW THE FUCK UP AND TAKE THAT PACIFIER OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. I WILL SHOW YOU A WOMAN OF HER WORD.

    IF YOU COME AND FINGER PAINT IN L.A, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT SHIT IS PAINTED BLACK AND YOUR ARROGANT SISSY ASS DON’T EVER COME THE FUCK BACK. I WILL HAVE EVERY WRITER IN EUROPE AND ASIA AND ANYWHERE YOU FUCKING GO COVER UP YOUR SHIT SO THAT YOU CEASE TO EXIST. HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD RETIREMENT PLAN. THAT REALLY SUCKS THAT PAINTING IS ALL YOU CAN DO. YOUR DAYS ARE ALMOST OVER. SIT THE FUCK DOWN YOU OVER-SIZED CLOWN! GO BUY YOURSELF A RICHARD SIMMONS VIDEO AND JUMP AROUND TO THE OLDIES!! YOU COULD REALLY USE THE WORK-OUT.

    DONT EVER EVER EVER STEP TO ME, BITCH. I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT TRUE CREATIVITY IS ALL ABOUT. WHEN YOU GET HIT ONE DAY HARD WHERE YOU ARE ALMOST CRIPPLED, YOU REMEMBER MY NAME BITCH. IF YOU RECALL, NOBODY STEPPED UP TO YOUR DEFENSE WHEN I BLEW YOUR ASS AWAY ON FACEBOOK. NOBODY FROM YOUR FAN CLUB CAME TO RESCUE U – AND THE ONE FOOL WHO DID – TRADED SIDES IN A HEARTBEAT!!! WHEN YOU FUCK WITH PANTHA, ONE SNAP FROM ME AND TONS OF WRITERS WILL JUMP ON YOU IN A SECOND ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. I DON’T PLAY GOD LIKE YOU, BUT I’VE ALWAYS WORKED TO BRING ARTISTS TOGETHER, NOT DIVIDE THEM.

    TRY ME. DECEMBER 1ST 2010 IS ROLLING UP IN A FEW MONTHS. I KEEP MY WORD. IF YOU DON’T DO ANYTHING POSITIVE BY THEN, YOU WILL REGRET EVER RATTLING YOUR TONGUE TO ME.

    I KNOW TONS OF CRAZY RATS IN NEW YORK — AND I KNOW TONS OF CRAZY RATS IN THE WORLD. YOU WOULD BE AMAZED BY WHAT ONE WOMAN CAN DO OR SAY TO DRIVE THEM EVEN CRAZIER. ;)

    CLASS IS DISMISSED.
    RIP COPE. GO HELP OUT A COUPLE OF YOUTH SHELTERS AND MAKE SURE THAT SHIT PASSES BY MY RADAR TO SAVE YOUR PITIFUL COLD SOUL.

    BP 777*

  • Val May 23, 2010, 10:29 am

    The WestSide is the best side. Cope is talking big but doing nothing. I hope these two battle. I have my $ on MakeOne.

  • So Baaaaad August 31, 2010, 9:39 pm

    Let them fight. Opps, I mean BATTLE. East Coast versus the West Coast

  • So Baaaaad August 31, 2010, 9:40 pm

    Was that really Cope2 responding to Make One? Haha, that is soap opera dramatic, dude.

  • LITHUANIA GUY October 14, 2010, 2:43 pm

    WOW…… :O

  • LITHUANIA GUY October 14, 2010, 2:44 pm

    :/

  • NBA jersey November 19, 2010, 8:48 am

    GOOD.
    Very good.

  • DEEZNUTS January 10, 2011, 9:38 pm

    What Battle cope , where’s your flicks kid, you have a website?————-> A Battle sounds good, hav bombingscience host in Montreal.

  • noek one March 31, 2011, 10:54 am

    damn i would love to see this lol cope2 make1 battling it out now thats the shit our culture needs is a good ol’ classic battle between legends

  • Cardboard Jones April 8, 2011, 9:59 am

    Cope2 seems to be scared. Those comments he made (if it is really him) are straight ASS.

  • Cardboard Jones November 4, 2011, 10:25 am

    Cope2 ain’t shit

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